Love the site by the way! When we compared the El Cap to the TTE we were astonished how well they compare to each otheruntil we started twisting knobs. Its fairly dark but theres something very musical about how it all blends perfectly with the guitar. I had forgotten how big and beautiful a tone I could get with that pedal! The Alter Ego is great but check out the Dawner Prince Boonar as well. The result was OK but a bit disappointing, compared to the Flashback. Its also similar to the Boss DD2, which was digital but with an analog flavour. Which one did you like best? See the Live at Pompeii gear guide for details on Davids current rig. I find it really silly for you to rudely point out a 4 month old mistake, which you could have done without being rude, and getting personal. Delay or echo is usually placed last in the chain. You can quickly and easily go from slow chorus-like spacey ambience to fluttery and warbly oscillation. At the moment im just using the reverb on my amp a laney l5 so its a digital reverb the signal path for shine on would be guitar-cali 76-modded bd2- boonar-amp. Havent tried i, but this one seems a little bit complicated to handle. However I dont seem to hear much of this loss with my other pedals.turned on with the delay. One of the main reasons I swapped it for the Belle. Lets just say Ill never use a sim. id just like to know your opinion about the Flashback X4 vs the new Alter ego X4 by Tc electronic? Have you ever tried this pedal? EHX Tube-Zipper : mod to use an EXP-pedal so you can use it as a tube-wah. Sounds awesome on every youtube clipsuper warm and organic. T-Rex also does a transistor modelIts cheaper, but rather than reel tape, it obviously uses audio-K7 tape. Thanks for the tip regarding the comments. The dumb old Echo Park covers so much ground that for practical purposes, I could get by with it as my only delay. A digital delay that sounds like a digital delay!? Try this: Worth checking out for early Gilmour tones and classic analong deleay in general. Thanks again. Delay time: 3200ms You need to get your hands on Jams Delay Llama. Hey Bjorn, how would you set up a TC Electronics Flashback (the regular, not the mini or any of the big ones) for David Gilmours PULSE tones? I wanted to ask if you had any experience with the boss DD500 delay, if this would be a good option for Gilmour tones. Really disappointed in them! It would be awesome if you could put in a mention of it in the delay section. From Saucerful of Secrets (1968) to Wish You Were Here (1975) you want an analog unit or at least a good digital tape/analog sim for those warm and organic sounding repeats. i don't care what it's supposed to sound like or if it does. Tip remains R audio input. I havent tried it. Thanks for the tip! If you ever need advise on plumbing/ heating issues maybe i can return the favor. Talk about the Fender Jazzmaster, Jaguar, and any other offset waist guitars with us! All I got back was sorry, i personally dont like pink floyd so cant help you. I think I am gonna go with flashback mini. P.S. The largest pedal here, which I would still question on pedalboard suitability is nonetheless the smaller Junior version of T-Rexs replicator - which in itself is somewhat modelled on the Echoplex. TC Electronics Nova Delay Hope you get so we can get a review. by Ursa Minor Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:21 pm, Post Ive written a feature about reverb that I recommend checking out, The HOF is great and with the toneprint feature you can pretty much create any tone you need. Theres always something new and tempting. You can't really get more basic than this, and you get a pretty decent output - which can be stereo with TRS splitter cables, but I'm not sure this one is quite of the quality of most of the other's here, and the fact that Dunlop now owns the Echoplex trademark probably helps it maintain a slightly higher than warranted price. I have the High End Cut Switch mod and it brings this pedal alive. I also got a Catalinbread Echorec, and it is dreamy. However, digital delay processors are also capable of producing convincing analog and tape simulation, without all the hassle of the older units. Tom i have a Delaylab and it is fantastic great sound, tons of delay options, expression pedal out, programmable, stereo ins and outs. ). I like that the el cap has tap tempo, but the boonar is such an exact replication of the echorec its very tempting. I have a mexican strat and a blackstar ht-5r. The new XO reissue is true to the old circuit, with very little noise and true bypass. And which you recomended to me,I havent any Delay? Latterly though I have been drawn to the Catalinbread Echorec and the Dawner Prince Boonar - which are both mono out. Ive skipped over a lot of the comments, including all the ones for 2015. Hi Bjorn! It has jaw-dropping rotaries, the Q-wah preset can do the TalkBox without losing teeth, as armonizer or Whammy, nothing beats it, This is the same pristine delays from the 80s rack version. Every time I think I am leaning towards the Dawner Prince Boonar, I check out this video and then promptly swing back the other way - both are really good, and this one is more compact - which possibly gives it an edge. For sure, if you have a collection of Foogers on a pedalboard (I own 8 incl. I have a question for you or anyone: when i play with lots of delay like the Time or Echoes solo i hear high pitch repetitions from the attack of the pick I guess, if i low the level it seems to disappear but the chaotic echo that I look is lost too. I don't need tap tempo. I dont have any specific settings but RLH is 380ms, with 6-7 repeats and a fairly loud effect level :). I havent experimented that much to replicate Davids layered delay settings but I often use a variation for my own tones and stage setup simply by combining two different delay pedals. Bjorn]. Learn how your comment data is processed. Its what I originally used for rockabilly, and its DYNO-MITE (and outta sight). I would be ashamed to post my stuff. Jeff. I am finally able to nail the tone on the solo..the rotary speaker I was given as a gift from my friend was a huge help as well. Gilmour tones: ASoS WYWH, Dawner Prince Boonar What do you think about Catalinbread Echorec ? I have the AD-900, the previous version, and I am as blown away by it as you are by the AD-999. In my opinion it is one of the best delay units available. GREAT TONE!!! Do you have any suggestion about editing a toneprint with a flanging effect? Hi Nadav! just so I can do the same , without the 100 watt Hi Watt Amp Cranked lol, [Hi Ryan! a very simple question: Do you think that having both Catalinbread Echorec and Boss RE20 Space Echo could be redundant? Nothing I have ever tried has come close to my AD-900. I have a DD-6 and it does as well not sure about the others though. I think the secret to Davids tone during the early 70s were simplicity. I recently came across the Guru Amps Echosex 2, and everything I thought I wanted completely flipped up-side down. I believe its relatively new, but there is just something about it that keeps catching my eye. Including how to get that good run like hell delay sound? Hi Bjorn, Bjorn or anyone out there, can you please advise me on how to get the right DG delay settings for the TC Electronic Flashback X4, similar to the Flashback delay; pictures would be a plus? I guess most people have good and bad experiences with most companies :). Hi Bjorn! I opted for the LTD version as I think you have this as well. http://www.t-rex-effects.com/binson-echorec-up-date/2017/12/19/current-status-on-the-t-rex-binson-echorec-z32s3, Hey, its been a couple of years since I got a Catalinbread Belle Epoch and Id like to say it sounds really great for gilmours echo tones but recently I aquired the EHX Green Russian Muff and the preamp of the belle epoch just kinda saturates a lot and sounds like a fart with it. Its all just great. Great job here, thank you!!!! Moog MF-108M Cluster Flux. I dont have the Alter Ego anymore so no I dont have any presets and no I dont know if you can create such a tone. Drenching your guitar with reverb in a band setup, will not only be in addition to the reverb you get from the room but also make your tone dull, muddy and less dynamic. Thanks for the kind words Jo! If you want a delay that does it all, then yes. It doesnt have to nail his tone as I have been cultivating my own sound but I like to know that I can still get somewhat close. [The Nova is no doubt a better pedal in terms of tone manipulation and features. Now, I need to buy a new delay and again you help me. The stock analog and tape sounds are OK but you can create awesome sounding custom patches with the Tone Print. (for purposes of this thread, don't answer with any actual tape based delays). [I havent tried the Moogs yet but I recogn it will do the job :) Still, I think the Timefactor is a more versatile pedal, especially for covering a wide range of Davids tones. When dialing a delay that sounds good, I always tend to find hearing to much the repeats. Thanks! But well, I dont want a cheap pick that wont do the job, I prefer spend a little bit more :). Ive been saving some money for quite sometime now and have been looking into the Boss DD-500 that has about 12 different delay effects and would like to hear your opinion about it to see if I could try to get that classic Run Like Hell tone from it. Youll get a long delay but it sounds better than a fast siingle slapback. I cant thank you enough for the advice youve given here. So I'm a 98% El Cap guy. From experimenting with reverb and tape recorders, to the echo machines of the 60s and 70s and the digital era of the 80s and 90s, delay has always been an important ingredient in modern music. Personally Im finally putting together a Gilmour/Andy Summers inspired pedal board, but plan on picking up the FX-8 as well. Keep it up <3, hi Bjorn, thanks for an incredible site! Thanks for all the insight- eating up every detail. I've owned quite a few including the el capistan and I think the VMSD really is the best. I am thinking about getting one, but want to really think about it, considering the price. Seriously, though, I love the El Cap. Cheers mate! Hey Bjorn, maybe Im wrong but, I was reading about the Flashback and it seems that it features an internal switch to choose between true bypass and buffer, but this last option allows you to use the spillover found in the Nova!! Its sort of their take on the old Memory Man and Replica. Track down a Hermida EPH-3. Ive been changing my gear, so I still havent bought the Belle Epoch (I hope that thay comes soon), but, for the moment I think I need a cheap delay. makes you want to attempt shine on you crazy diamond doing the keyboard parts yourself. Bjorn], way more money than getting a delay pedal, but if you want to see some cool sound on sound capabilities that can also emulate a keyboard sound to play over, check out a demo for the ehx hog2. The current model has a different circuit and does not sound the same. Hi Bjorn!!! Although he often use the typical tape settings, such as 300bpm or slapback aprox 120bpm for the early stuff, he often either use tap or 8s. You might also want to check out a multi unit to be able to cover more tones and also store different presets. Your site has been an amazing help in my tone quest and I wanted to personally recommend the TC Nova System to anyone, who wants a wide variety of effects, that in my opinion are of very high quality. DELUXE MEMORY MAN XO pedal ? Denis, Florida USA. The reverb effect is designed to simulate the space and dimension you naturally get from playing in different environments. From what I understand, he first used the units to produce primarely the tap tempo sounds but in recent years, it seems that the unit is used to replicate some of the tones he got from his old Binson echo machines. The Boss DD2 wasnt released until 1983, after The Wall tour finished, and 5 years after the recording of The Wall album. [Depends on how many repeats and how loud you want them. I have the Obscura and an El Capistan and currently the El Cap is on the board but I thought the Obscura compared very favorably in terms of typical tape delay sounds. why dont you have a Gilmourish.com score on the delay pedals? Thanks man for all your efforts to keep the guitar community nourished. You get all of these to do pretty much the same kind of tones. Welcome to the site! I dont see your comment on TC lectronic triple dlay actualy it should seem to be a good device to get most of Gilmours dlay Are digital delays not Too thin .? Thanks for the guidance, hug. Have any experience with the Ernie Ball Ambient Delay? Stephen, I agree with Bjorn regarding the EXC Canyon but of all mentioned, I bought the Catalinbread.even over the Boonar which I thought would be the winner for me. http://www.analogman.com/dd5.htm Personally dont care for all in one packages just looking for info on the strymon dig and another other digital delay pedal only you might recommend. The Echosex is perhaps closer to the Memory Man, which although has much of that big spaceous tone, is really more like a conventional analog delay, with darker repeats and decay. It has a setting called sustain and it does exactly that without changing my tone at all. It does color the sound but to the color I love. The FLashback is a great alternative for tight budgets or if you just want something a bit more basic. The El Capistan behaves just like a tape machine. Im already the kind to use a tubey for my Roland, Obie, SIEL, etc analog synths as well as VSTis, I also have run some VSTis trough MoogerFoogers for test purposes and these were nice improvements to modelizations for unobtainium synths : the few stuff I A/B tested with the real shit, be it guitar gear or synths, was NEVER on par with the real ones,but while modelizations were horrible when going thru the Dynaudio or PMC monitoring in the studio, while ran through tubeys+Foogers, it was nice to hear it. Anyone? So Im very curious to listen the new BOONAR version thai Will come out with valve circuit and toner option. Id love to see your thoughts on those. Any of the ones listed here would do. I havent but it sure looks like a clone or at least based on. Wow, quite a collection you got there! Kind regards and my best wishes for your new album. Thanks for your amazing encyclopedia of sound its a real Bible for me. I did try the Prophet, I ultimately dont use it much, and heres why. Ive never played one actually. If you havent tried it yourself, Ill let you know how it sounds! For less than I see it selling now. thanks so much for all your help with pickups and everything for my tele and rig will post pic and clip when guitar is complete . Btw, Wall is 440ms :). I have a ibanez amp with transistors, not very good i guess, i use the clean channel and a moderate/high volume for a house, play too low is a bit boring. The Echosex for a lush and organic sounding tape echo :), Bjorn, this photo essay in The Guardian has some nice shots of Gilmours recent pedal board, and it appears that hes using a Free the Tone delay. The second, also based on your recommendations was an Analogman Sunface BC-109. Hey Bjorn, what do you think about Vox DelayLab? All hand wired in Denmark. The Nova can do very nice echo sounds so maybe a rotary then? [Its sort of based on the Boss DD2. What would be your choice between TC Electronics Nova Delay and TC Electronics Flashback? It was a model #1, which was also used on the recording of his first solo album, The Wall album and tour and for the Final Cut sessions. Hi Bjorn, I own a Catalinbread Echorec and was considering a Boss DD-2. Its got some very nice analog delay tones but lack the warmth and the headroom of the old Memory Man. I have tried every combination between the pedal, amp, and guitar. The sticker should be on the Boonar. I use a Fender Rampart, I dont have reverb in my amp but I got some really nice tube sounding. Hi Chad! Would the dual Mose with dotted eighth notes on about 550 ms be right to get run lik e hell sound. It was from the early 90s amd has a nice analog delay that is somewhat limited to setting for one sound and leaving it. In terms of covering Davids tones, Id personally go with one of them and have a digital delay in addition for the more pristine delays. Luckily, most manufacturers recognizes the importance of keeping their customers close. I know you dont use reverb much, so do you have a delay always on? Also just a thought, wouldnt it be better to have the newest comments first? What I may use : I havent tried those so I cant really tell. If you had the chance to try it, i will enjoyed to read your comments. I dont have that much experience with it but I would say that its right up there with the Strymon stuff. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If its the amp, then you might want to take it to a certified tech and have them look at it. Thank you Bjorn. those modes (missing from the Timeline) are much better for the "authentic" tape sound that everyone wants. Hi Bjorn. Also as a Mark Speer fan myself (and a DD-7 owner) Im honestly about to bite the bullet and just get an el cap, I was in the same boat, looking for a budget friendly version of the El Cap, wasted a few bucks here and there until I finally said fuck it and spent the $300. Get a late 90s Deluxe or the ElecLady. Bjorn]. Let me know, and Ill try to help. This is typically 100 more than the Catalinbread, so that will undoubtedly factor in too - I really to keep oscillating between the these two pedals, and right now I cannot make up my mind as to which to get! Im not really an expert on these things so you might want to check someplace else too. Bjorn, thought you might be interested in this, perhaps? I deeply respect your choices, they would be mine too, but I really missed Strymon Timeline Thank you, really, youve been such a help with random peoples gear Bjorn As well as the ending with the long drawn out 4th fret G string bends. Have you been able to try the Boss DM-2W? And its not the same price so far. Thank you Alessandro! TC Hall of Fame? Gilmour tones: ASoS Rattle, Boss DD-20 With tap tempo. I was wondering if the Walrus Audio Mako Series D1 is a good delay pedal for Gilmour tone? Thank you so much for your quickly reply! The Tone Print feature makes it even more versatile. The other models sounds quite nice though and again, with the Tone Print feature, you can dial in the amount of modulation, filter and just abaout anything you need for your own signature delay/echo. It is also considerably cheaper than a Strymon. Keep on Rockin . Hi Bjorn! One word of caution: not all delays with expression pedal support allow you to control feedback with it. Delays can be run individually, in series or in parallel - depending on where you set the Bleed control. I still reckon this is a great solution if you are serious about getting as authentic a tape delay sound as possible - with real tape transport and true wow & flutter dynamics. the tone control allows it to go from dmm-ish to tape-ish. The reviews Ive heard are promising. I ended up getting one second hand, really nice digital delay not to brittle and manages to keep most of your original tone intact. I think all of the Animals and Wall shows have been recorded. Hey Bjorn, how do you feel about the Empress Vintage Modified Superdelay compared to some of the higher end models you have listed here? Time-wise, David mainly used the Binson, which had 310ms and the MXR rack, which had 440ms. You have to enable the tap feature using the PC Toneprint editor (not the app) and connect the footswitch into the R stereo input using a TRS plug, with the switch between ring and sleeve. Digitech Obscura. Can you share your setup and especily the delay settings or settings that can work with the Nova Delay.!? I wanna ask you: are 300 ms too few for playing Pink Floyd songs?? Hi Bjorn, Thanks for all the great reviews. You can however setup a delay to beat with the song. As I say, I know its a lot to ask so I totally understand if you dont want to do it! The comment thing I mean, your a chill dude my friend. This is what i have found I hope it helps. Hey bjorn, I would like your input on the strymon timeline, is it worth the outlay. It seems like it should be good I just know strymon is always known for making ambient type pedals and just wanted to see if this pedal would work for that gilmourish type sound. I would personally go for the Replica since I rarely use multi tap delays. If you want to expand, then I guess Strymon or Eventide is the next step. Level (mix) and feedback (repeats) depends on what tones you want and how the pedal responds to your guitar, amp and other pedals. In fact, together with the Mesa TriAxis, this pair of racks are the two best assets you can get for the PF songbook, you can get even further than DG by adding the Eventide Eclipse to the MPX-G2. Their sonic quality combined with the degree of control over parameters is possibly unmatched by any other units. What are your thoughts on the new Strymon Volante? what do you think about the ELECTRO HARMONIX mod. Also at proper delay time playing style can make a difference too. Havent tried it, so I cant really tell. I listened comparisons with the T-Rex Replica and Reptile 2, and they seems quite similar for me (except for the flutter part of the Reptile, of course). You should look at the dod rubberneck delay . But when you do look its definitely there. I havent had the chance to try the DIG so I cant really comment on that. I think the Replica is one of the best delays out there but if youre looking for something with a darker tone and more dirt and flutter then look elsewhere. Experiment with the level of these and find a balance than work. The Nova should do sound on sound with the spillover feature. I own a 6U rack with 6 Foogers on 2 tablets, 1 Doepfer 24chan MIDI-to-CV, a RJM router/looper/switcher and some other stompboxes as there is room left on the tablets. I would like to understand your thoughts on using a dual parallel looper for delays. My setup is a Squire vintage modified 70s with the duncan designed pickups, fender strings I believe they are 10s, the prophet, TC forcefield compressor ( which works great ), and a marshall MG15CFX. I dont have any specific settings but check out the album guides for time settings. I don't know if it is a difficult feature to implement, or if manufacturers don't understand that people want to control feedback with their feet more than they want to control, say, the mix. Thanks for getting out your delay page. Mooer is a brand Ive come to know here on Gilmourish in the phaser page. Thanks a lot for all the help you give in this site! Very similar to the Flashback. As drum age is increased this is drastically accentuated. Ive been wanting someone to make a tap-tempo Echorec inspired pedal for years, and the fact that Effectrode is doing it means itll be in a class all of its own. You tried many digital (for the Gilmours tones after 1980) delays. Compared to a stand-alone echorec based pedal, this has all the features I would ever need for any situation. The 'Depth' dial here is very useful in getting this pedal to fit in and around your playing - otherwise this is really very vanilla and straightforward.