Thanks for all responses, Michael Murphy mvmu@attmail.at.com, > Speaking of tractors>>> While pageing through a Mother Earth News mag the other day I saw>a tractor imported from China advertized ad $4999. How do you know that it doesnt seem to be getting fuel? My 8N has also been finicky even with a new tank, screens, bowls and lines etc. You could be in store for a carb cleaning or a rebuild. Fuel leaks (pours) from the air intake pipe. "width": 200, { It is just forward of the plug at the bottom rear of the carb. They just won't start when all 4 are in there after flooding. The venturi must seat properly in the carb body. Fuel leaks (pours) from the air intake pipe. I can then put the old plugs back in one by one and burn whatever crud the gasoline is leaving behind off of them and they work fine. I appreciate your guidance and experience- it did make a difference! Thanks to you and the others for your interest and advise. How do you know that it doesnt seem to be getting fuel? Thew float was set at .250 and has been cheched many times. "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", Let us know how it turns out. For some reason once flooded I always need new plugs to get started. "height": 57 It appears that even though the carb is full,fuel is not reaching the combustion chamber as the plugs remain dry. Seems there's not a nicer, more helpful bunch on the whole 'net - present company excluded ;-). thanks guys, I'll try to do everything as posted! Sounds like two separate problems. "userInteractionCount": 7 "text": "My friends 8n ran great until recently when it just stopped and gas began running through the carb. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V. window.dataLayer = window.dataLayer || []; function gtag(){dataLayer.push(arguments);} gtag('js', new Date()); gtag('config', 'G-04SJ2KTSCK',{ cookie_flags: 'max-age=7200;secure;samesite=none' }); Welcome! I did not install a new fuel line and turn off valve as of yet, but have them on order. I appreciate all of the forum friends and your advice!!!! 
I start to adjust mine with the power screw out 1 1/2 out and the idle screw 1turn out. }, I referred to the carb intake; I should of said the carb Air intake give it a good squirt. 
Are the spark plugs clean / new / gapped properly? Very helpful. Unfortunately for me, I must have had another problem, either when I shut it down way back when or was created during the lengthy sit. That maybe how it got crushed; it was put in backwars and when the top and bottom castings were tightened down, it collapsed the venturi. The carburetor appears to have two adjustments, but I don't know which does what. ste@kendaco.telebyte.com "Don't hate nuthin at allste@four.net 'cept hatred"sim@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us, All good points. The only other possibility is that you didn't adjust the float level properly. It was 25 hp and hasa 3pt hitch. There may be something else going on, but try plugs before putting too much more time into it. When trying to restart, it wouldn't kick over at all. Wayne, Another thought re: the venturi. The bowl was half empty but shaking the tractor got gas to fill up the bowl. You have fuel to the float bowl but not to the cylinders as I understand it. Is this a standard horse power measurement? 
The brass venturi does not seem to fit tight as if it has been slightly collapsed. Several years ago Belrus made their small model available through other sources such as Northern Hydraulic. Hp. Wayne, I'm assuming you have a Marvel-Schebler carburetor. Send an e-mail message to: antique-tra@ledger.co.forsyth.nc.us. You have fuel to the float bowl but not to the cylinders as I understand it. Too much fuel to the float chamber and none to the cylinders. Did you take out the tube that sits in the venturi to make sure it was clear? If you adjusted the float level properly than you must a) have something stuck under the needle seat that isn't allowing it to close, or b) you have a crack in the casting. Also doesn't appear to be any problem with restrictions in the fuel line-there is a new filter that was recently installed after the sediment bowl. Spin it over with the choke fully closed; gas should drip out of the carb intake.If there is gas the next step is check for spark; take a plug wire off of a spark plug, hold the end close, 1/8 inch, to the plug top (or another place where there is bare metal)and with the key on spin it overthere should be a visible spark. ", JavaScript is disabled. Make sure it is put in the right way. The flow circuit is from the tank, to the sediment bowl, to the tube, to the carb fitting, through the screen on the carb fitting, through the needle valve seat/valve into the float bowl. My guess - You need new plugs. I noted too that gas was also leaking out of what I would not have guessed was an opening on the underside of the carb. Did you take out the tube that sits in the venturi to make sure it was clear? I cannot understand what caused the floats to collapse in the first place. I need some advice on how to adjust the jets on my ford tractor's carburetor. Hp. Thanks to you and the others for your interest and advise. Then while it was idling for about 5 minutes, it started sputtering and died. When was the last time you put a drop of oil in the oil cup on the side of the distributor to allow the spark advance to work? Definitely follow the 2 pieces of earlier advice on cleaning screens, the fact you ran it dry probably dislodged dirt and clogged somewhere in your system. carburetor farmall Wayne, I presume that, when you say the carb is leaking fuel,(after you rebuilt it and replaced the defective float and the needle valve/seat and correctly adjusted float level) it is dripping out the intke pipe. 9n 8n 2n carburetor Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. by the way that picture of the carb really helped !!!! Hey guys. Copyright 1995-2022 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. "name": "Yesterday's Tractor Co.", I recently bought an old Ford 8N (circa 1952?) Some say the power screw should be out 2 full turns. at least the one installed does not match the picture they printed for me. Also make sure that your choke linkage and butterfly are not stuck closed and that the throttle linkage and butterfly move smoothly and freely. } If it is a float or needle valve problem there should be evidence of fuel leaking if you allowit to sit awhile, not running, with the fuel turned on. Make sure you have all the screens in the line. "dateModified": "2003-08-18", For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Something went wrong. Rebuilding the carb on an old tractor couldn't be much simpler. I would say a tune up is in order , new plugs, points and cond . at least the one installed does not match the picture they printed for me. Some say the power screw should be out 2 full turns. carburetor >> Mike Murphy> mvmu@attmail.att.com, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message. thanks again. Second you didn't say but are you shutting off the fuel when not inuse? : Since the gas tank sits above the engine, perhaps a worn needle valve. They just won't start when all 4 are in there after flooding. Guarantees? My guess - You need new plugs. 2600 }, I would say a tune up is in order , new plugs, points and cond . None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. "@type":"DiscussionForumPosting", Gas came out the air intake which is good but the spark plug electrodes are still dry. About a year ago, on my Ford 8N, I drained the gas tank (by running the engine until it went dry), removed the hood and gas tank to get at the radiator and change axles. Becasue it's a gravityfeed fuel system all the junk goes to the bottom and can cause intermittantquiting when some of the junk gets sucked in. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. The flow circuit is from the tank, to the sediment bowl, to the tube, to the carb fitting, through the screen on the carb fitting, through the needle valve seat/valve into the float bowl. Get on that baby and put it through some paces. Heavy Equipment Air Intake & Fuel Delivery, Leave feedback about your eBay ViewItem experience, Zenith Carburetor Main Jet Adjusting Needle fit Ford 8N tractor B3NN-A 13876 B51, - Top Rated Plus - opens in a new window or tab, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new window or tab, - for PayPal Credit, opens in a new window or tab, Learn more about earning points with eBay Mastercard, - eBay Return policy - opens in a new tab or window, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new tab or window. Intake has vacuum. The venturi must seat properly in the carb body. Starter fluid had no effect which would also be consistent with flooding. Could be junk in the carb. Still won't start. Bill's diagram puts you on the right track. I can then put the old plugs back in one by one and burn whatever crud the gasoline is leaving behind off of them and they work fine. Any thoughts on why I am not getting gas to the line? It could be a sticking float. "image": { Symptoms yesterday: it would kick once or twice, then the starter would disengage. we are bewildered--will try anything. If fuel is pouring out of the intake pipe than either the needle valve isn't closing or the casting has a crack in it Take the fitting off and make sure the screen hasn't come off and jammed the needle valve open. at least the one installed does not match the picture they printed for me. Has anyone owned/used/seen these tractors?>(I would post this to the antique tractor list, but I KNOW they would laugh). Good luck- these old tractors can make a person insane.-Amy>> >, While pageing through a Mother Earth News mag the other day I sawa tractor imported from China advertized ad $4999. I assume you did the carb overhaul correctly and you are not trying to burn something other than clean gasoline , Spray starter fluid in the carb intake, see what happens . Turn the fuel back on and look for fuel to drain out in a catch container. Not sure I understand the "Is there gas going into the intake manifold? If somebody treated the carb as badly as it sounds look for cracks in the casting where fuel could leak around the needle valve/seat. Are you sure that nothing is stuck under the needle valve seat? TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. Also make sure that your choke linkage and butterfly are not stuck closed and that the throttle linkage and butterfly move smoothly and freely. There may also be a fuel screen in the inlet elbow of the carburetor. Out on the idle screw leans the mixture and in enrichens it. Symptoms today: started immediately with no choking. Good luck. Being that this price seems to be 1/2 to 1/3 of the price of>brand named models, I am sceptical. Come join the discussion about classic restorations, references, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Care has been given to avoid vacuum leaks. 1.You need to determine that gas is getting into the combustion chamber. New float checked and re=checked to ensure adjustment and clearance.all jets and passages carefully cleaned. A defective front mount coil will also give you fits. After warming up for a few minutes, I moved it about 100 yards. Neat tool too. Finally did the carb air intake test. I plan on working on the tractor myself, but if needed will a shoptake on a no-name tractor? A defective front mount coil will also give you fits. "@context":"https://schema.org", "@type": "Person", Wayne, I presume that, when you say the carb is leaking fuel,(after you rebuilt it and replaced the defective float and the needle valve/seat and correctly adjusted float level) it is dripping out the intke pipe. Is this not a sufficient test of gas flow? The tractor itself isguarantted and there is guarantee of parts availability, but no mention ofservice. Anyway, my 2 cents on your problem: it is possible that your carburetor and fuel system need to be cleaned out. So now not sure where to go next. Is there gas going into the intake manifold? Care has been given to avoid vacuum leaks. A forum community dedicated to Antique & Classic Tractor owners and enthusiasts. this is my last hope before a new $$ carb. I appreciate any advice, as I am not carburetor savy!! As I recall, one end is slightly larger in diameter than the other and sits down in the casting. I have found that keeping my tank very full with gas has alleviated many of my starting problems; but that is only after you are ensured of unimpeded gas flow to the bowl and then to the carb. If nothing else, I am learning something. Come join the discussion about farming, lawn maintenance, restoration, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! 
If air leaks around it than the mixture will be too lean. Obviously I am doing something wrong but I have Followed the manual carefully. go to the distributorIf you have gas and spark check compression. The first, > Id want to know if parts were availableand service. Make sure it is put in the right way. Wayne, I'm assuming you have a Marvel-Schebler carburetor. thanks again. You may need to replace the venturi. Being that this price seems to be 1/2 to 1/3 of the price ofbrand named models, I am sceptical. I assume you did the carb overhaul correctly and you are not trying to burn something other than clean gasoline , Spray starter fluid in the carb intake, see what happens . }, Has anyone owned/used/seen these tractors? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Did you by chance remove and replace the plug wires possibly mixing up the firing order? The spark plug test seems to be as you explained in greater detail in the above post. For some reason once flooded I always need new plugs to get started. Starting fluid has no effect. I don't understand how the floats could be collapsed , nor do I understand how the venturi could be collapsed unless someone put the carb together without aligning the venturi properly, then screwed the top and bottom castings together, crushing the venturi. I assume you did the carb overhaul correctly and you are not trying to burn something other than clean gasoline , Spray starter fluid in the carb intake, see what happens . Have you tried blowing air in the passages to make sure they are free and clear? It appears that even though the carb is full,fuel is not reaching the combustion chamber as the plugs remain dry. Have you tried blowing air in the passages to make sure they are free and clear? It's possible the float level was set wrong, but I would sure try to adjust it first. Since the gas tank sits above the engine, perhaps a worn needle valve in the carburetor is causing the flooding, if this is indeed the problem. We have had episodes like you describe and last spring my husband took the gas tank off and cleanedit out thoroughly and we've had no problems since. Perhaps if all else fails, can you check to see what kind of compression you're getting as deerhide suggested? "@type": "Organization", Thanks for your interest an we appreciate any help. } Thew float was set at .250 and has been cheched many times. "@type": "InteractionCounter", That would probably be the offering from China Desil.While I've never seen one of them, I do own one of the engines upon which its (probably) based. is rated in so many different ways..how is it rated..can you see one in action?If it is that cheap it might pay to fly or drive to where you CAN see one dosome work. Give the carb float bowl a tap with a mallet or a hammer handle. be careful not to whack it hard enough to damage it. Too much fuel to the float chamber and none to the cylinders. Shut off the fuel then remove the plug at the bottom of the carburetor. Sounds like it might be the screen in the float bowl, or the screen that goes up into the bottom of the gas tank is clogged. -- Geoffrey Leach C/C++/X11/Motif/OpenLook Implementationge@netcom.com Mountain Ranch Software P.O. I'm going to call Central Tractor to see if I can get a manual, but any help in the meantime would be appreciated. If you adjusted the float level properly than you must a) have something stuck under the needle seat that isn't allowing it to close, or b) you have a crack in the casting. stephenscity: Mike, wanted to thank you for the reply, when I bought the tractor the fuel cut off had been bypassed, but the tractor ran very well, that is until the fuel began running out of the carb and knew then that there was trouble! These are gravity fed filter messs up the fuel feed. May be what was wrong before you rebuilt the thing. "logo": { I will remove the filter and buy a new line to install, with a new cut off valve. I can then put the old plugs back in one by one and burn whatever crud the gasoline is leaving behind off of them and they work fine. The carb was cleaned and a new kit installed. for creasing the pasture, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, : clearing snow off the driveway, and general messin' around. }. Obviously I am doing something wrong but I have Followed the manual carefully. hey mike and john, just wanted to update you about my 52 ford tractor- I actually got it going thanks to the two of you. Out on the idle screw leans the mixture and in enrichens it. what I found was a small leak in the fuel line that was apparently sucking air in with the fuel and made the tuning of the carb difficult. Now are the plugs firing at the correct time? Choking had no effect, and there was some backfiring, which makes me think it was flooding. The carb was cleaned and a new kit installed. Spin it over with the choke fully closed; gas should drip out of the carb intake". Their engines are reliable, but notmuch in the fit-and-finish department.Same goes for the people at Chana Desil, come to think of it. is rated. "name": "Wayne Louton" Don't overlook the possibility that the float has a crack in it allowingfuel to enter and change its boyancy.
I start to adjust mine with the power screw out 1 1/2 out and the idle screw 1turn out. }, I referred to the carb intake; I should of said the carb Air intake give it a good squirt. Are the spark plugs clean / new / gapped properly? Very helpful. Unfortunately for me, I must have had another problem, either when I shut it down way back when or was created during the lengthy sit. That maybe how it got crushed; it was put in backwars and when the top and bottom castings were tightened down, it collapsed the venturi. The carburetor appears to have two adjustments, but I don't know which does what. ste@kendaco.telebyte.com "Don't hate nuthin at allste@four.net 'cept hatred"sim@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us, All good points. The only other possibility is that you didn't adjust the float level properly. It was 25 hp and hasa 3pt hitch. There may be something else going on, but try plugs before putting too much more time into it. When trying to restart, it wouldn't kick over at all. Wayne, Another thought re: the venturi. The bowl was half empty but shaking the tractor got gas to fill up the bowl. You have fuel to the float bowl but not to the cylinders as I understand it. Is this a standard horse power measurement? 
The brass venturi does not seem to fit tight as if it has been slightly collapsed. Several years ago Belrus made their small model available through other sources such as Northern Hydraulic. Hp. Wayne, I'm assuming you have a Marvel-Schebler carburetor. Send an e-mail message to: antique-tra@ledger.co.forsyth.nc.us. You have fuel to the float bowl but not to the cylinders as I understand it. Too much fuel to the float chamber and none to the cylinders. Did you take out the tube that sits in the venturi to make sure it was clear? If you adjusted the float level properly than you must a) have something stuck under the needle seat that isn't allowing it to close, or b) you have a crack in the casting. Also doesn't appear to be any problem with restrictions in the fuel line-there is a new filter that was recently installed after the sediment bowl. Spin it over with the choke fully closed; gas should drip out of the carb intake.If there is gas the next step is check for spark; take a plug wire off of a spark plug, hold the end close, 1/8 inch, to the plug top (or another place where there is bare metal)and with the key on spin it overthere should be a visible spark. ", JavaScript is disabled. Make sure it is put in the right way. The flow circuit is from the tank, to the sediment bowl, to the tube, to the carb fitting, through the screen on the carb fitting, through the needle valve seat/valve into the float bowl. My guess - You need new plugs. I noted too that gas was also leaking out of what I would not have guessed was an opening on the underside of the carb. Did you take out the tube that sits in the venturi to make sure it was clear? I cannot understand what caused the floats to collapse in the first place. I need some advice on how to adjust the jets on my ford tractor's carburetor. Hp. Thanks to you and the others for your interest and advise. Then while it was idling for about 5 minutes, it started sputtering and died. When was the last time you put a drop of oil in the oil cup on the side of the distributor to allow the spark advance to work? Definitely follow the 2 pieces of earlier advice on cleaning screens, the fact you ran it dry probably dislodged dirt and clogged somewhere in your system. carburetor farmall Wayne, I presume that, when you say the carb is leaking fuel,(after you rebuilt it and replaced the defective float and the needle valve/seat and correctly adjusted float level) it is dripping out the intke pipe. 9n 8n 2n carburetor Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. by the way that picture of the carb really helped !!!! Hey guys. Copyright 1995-2022 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. "name": "Yesterday's Tractor Co.", I recently bought an old Ford 8N (circa 1952?) Some say the power screw should be out 2 full turns. at least the one installed does not match the picture they printed for me. Also make sure that your choke linkage and butterfly are not stuck closed and that the throttle linkage and butterfly move smoothly and freely. } If it is a float or needle valve problem there should be evidence of fuel leaking if you allowit to sit awhile, not running, with the fuel turned on. Make sure you have all the screens in the line. "dateModified": "2003-08-18", For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Something went wrong. Rebuilding the carb on an old tractor couldn't be much simpler. I would say a tune up is in order , new plugs, points and cond . at least the one installed does not match the picture they printed for me. Some say the power screw should be out 2 full turns. carburetor >> Mike Murphy> mvmu@attmail.att.com, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message. thanks again. Second you didn't say but are you shutting off the fuel when not inuse? : Since the gas tank sits above the engine, perhaps a worn needle valve. They just won't start when all 4 are in there after flooding. Guarantees? My guess - You need new plugs. 2600 }, I would say a tune up is in order , new plugs, points and cond . None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. "@type":"DiscussionForumPosting", Gas came out the air intake which is good but the spark plug electrodes are still dry. About a year ago, on my Ford 8N, I drained the gas tank (by running the engine until it went dry), removed the hood and gas tank to get at the radiator and change axles. Becasue it's a gravityfeed fuel system all the junk goes to the bottom and can cause intermittantquiting when some of the junk gets sucked in. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. The flow circuit is from the tank, to the sediment bowl, to the tube, to the carb fitting, through the screen on the carb fitting, through the needle valve seat/valve into the float bowl. Get on that baby and put it through some paces. Heavy Equipment Air Intake & Fuel Delivery, Leave feedback about your eBay ViewItem experience, Zenith Carburetor Main Jet Adjusting Needle fit Ford 8N tractor B3NN-A 13876 B51, - Top Rated Plus - opens in a new window or tab, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new window or tab, - for PayPal Credit, opens in a new window or tab, Learn more about earning points with eBay Mastercard, - eBay Return policy - opens in a new tab or window, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new tab or window. Intake has vacuum. The venturi must seat properly in the carb body. Starter fluid had no effect which would also be consistent with flooding. Could be junk in the carb. Still won't start. Bill's diagram puts you on the right track. I can then put the old plugs back in one by one and burn whatever crud the gasoline is leaving behind off of them and they work fine. Any thoughts on why I am not getting gas to the line? It could be a sticking float. "image": { Symptoms yesterday: it would kick once or twice, then the starter would disengage. we are bewildered--will try anything. If fuel is pouring out of the intake pipe than either the needle valve isn't closing or the casting has a crack in it Take the fitting off and make sure the screen hasn't come off and jammed the needle valve open. at least the one installed does not match the picture they printed for me. Has anyone owned/used/seen these tractors?>(I would post this to the antique tractor list, but I KNOW they would laugh). Good luck- these old tractors can make a person insane.-Amy>> >, While pageing through a Mother Earth News mag the other day I sawa tractor imported from China advertized ad $4999. I assume you did the carb overhaul correctly and you are not trying to burn something other than clean gasoline , Spray starter fluid in the carb intake, see what happens . Turn the fuel back on and look for fuel to drain out in a catch container. Not sure I understand the "Is there gas going into the intake manifold? If somebody treated the carb as badly as it sounds look for cracks in the casting where fuel could leak around the needle valve/seat. Are you sure that nothing is stuck under the needle valve seat? TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. Also make sure that your choke linkage and butterfly are not stuck closed and that the throttle linkage and butterfly move smoothly and freely. There may also be a fuel screen in the inlet elbow of the carburetor. Out on the idle screw leans the mixture and in enrichens it. Symptoms today: started immediately with no choking. Good luck. Being that this price seems to be 1/2 to 1/3 of the price of>brand named models, I am sceptical. Come join the discussion about classic restorations, references, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Care has been given to avoid vacuum leaks. 1.You need to determine that gas is getting into the combustion chamber. New float checked and re=checked to ensure adjustment and clearance.all jets and passages carefully cleaned. A defective front mount coil will also give you fits. After warming up for a few minutes, I moved it about 100 yards. Neat tool too. Finally did the carb air intake test. I plan on working on the tractor myself, but if needed will a shoptake on a no-name tractor? A defective front mount coil will also give you fits. "@context":"https://schema.org", "@type": "Person", Wayne, I presume that, when you say the carb is leaking fuel,(after you rebuilt it and replaced the defective float and the needle valve/seat and correctly adjusted float level) it is dripping out the intke pipe. Is this not a sufficient test of gas flow? The tractor itself isguarantted and there is guarantee of parts availability, but no mention ofservice. Anyway, my 2 cents on your problem: it is possible that your carburetor and fuel system need to be cleaned out. So now not sure where to go next. Is there gas going into the intake manifold? Care has been given to avoid vacuum leaks. A forum community dedicated to Antique & Classic Tractor owners and enthusiasts. this is my last hope before a new $$ carb. I appreciate any advice, as I am not carburetor savy!! As I recall, one end is slightly larger in diameter than the other and sits down in the casting. I have found that keeping my tank very full with gas has alleviated many of my starting problems; but that is only after you are ensured of unimpeded gas flow to the bowl and then to the carb. If nothing else, I am learning something. Come join the discussion about farming, lawn maintenance, restoration, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! 
If air leaks around it than the mixture will be too lean. Obviously I am doing something wrong but I have Followed the manual carefully. go to the distributorIf you have gas and spark check compression. The first, > Id want to know if parts were availableand service. Make sure it is put in the right way. Wayne, I'm assuming you have a Marvel-Schebler carburetor. thanks again. You may need to replace the venturi. Being that this price seems to be 1/2 to 1/3 of the price ofbrand named models, I am sceptical. I assume you did the carb overhaul correctly and you are not trying to burn something other than clean gasoline , Spray starter fluid in the carb intake, see what happens . }, Has anyone owned/used/seen these tractors? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Did you by chance remove and replace the plug wires possibly mixing up the firing order? The spark plug test seems to be as you explained in greater detail in the above post. For some reason once flooded I always need new plugs to get started. Starting fluid has no effect. I don't understand how the floats could be collapsed , nor do I understand how the venturi could be collapsed unless someone put the carb together without aligning the venturi properly, then screwed the top and bottom castings together, crushing the venturi. I assume you did the carb overhaul correctly and you are not trying to burn something other than clean gasoline , Spray starter fluid in the carb intake, see what happens . Have you tried blowing air in the passages to make sure they are free and clear? It appears that even though the carb is full,fuel is not reaching the combustion chamber as the plugs remain dry. Have you tried blowing air in the passages to make sure they are free and clear? It's possible the float level was set wrong, but I would sure try to adjust it first. Since the gas tank sits above the engine, perhaps a worn needle valve in the carburetor is causing the flooding, if this is indeed the problem. We have had episodes like you describe and last spring my husband took the gas tank off and cleanedit out thoroughly and we've had no problems since. Perhaps if all else fails, can you check to see what kind of compression you're getting as deerhide suggested? "@type": "Organization", Thanks for your interest an we appreciate any help. } Thew float was set at .250 and has been cheched many times. "@type": "InteractionCounter", That would probably be the offering from China Desil.While I've never seen one of them, I do own one of the engines upon which its (probably) based. is rated in so many different ways..how is it rated..can you see one in action?If it is that cheap it might pay to fly or drive to where you CAN see one dosome work. Give the carb float bowl a tap with a mallet or a hammer handle. be careful not to whack it hard enough to damage it. Too much fuel to the float chamber and none to the cylinders. Shut off the fuel then remove the plug at the bottom of the carburetor. Sounds like it might be the screen in the float bowl, or the screen that goes up into the bottom of the gas tank is clogged. -- Geoffrey Leach C/C++/X11/Motif/OpenLook Implementationge@netcom.com Mountain Ranch Software P.O. I'm going to call Central Tractor to see if I can get a manual, but any help in the meantime would be appreciated. If you adjusted the float level properly than you must a) have something stuck under the needle seat that isn't allowing it to close, or b) you have a crack in the casting. stephenscity: Mike, wanted to thank you for the reply, when I bought the tractor the fuel cut off had been bypassed, but the tractor ran very well, that is until the fuel began running out of the carb and knew then that there was trouble! These are gravity fed filter messs up the fuel feed. May be what was wrong before you rebuilt the thing. "logo": { I will remove the filter and buy a new line to install, with a new cut off valve. I can then put the old plugs back in one by one and burn whatever crud the gasoline is leaving behind off of them and they work fine. The carb was cleaned and a new kit installed. for creasing the pasture, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, : clearing snow off the driveway, and general messin' around. }. Obviously I am doing something wrong but I have Followed the manual carefully. hey mike and john, just wanted to update you about my 52 ford tractor- I actually got it going thanks to the two of you. Out on the idle screw leans the mixture and in enrichens it. what I found was a small leak in the fuel line that was apparently sucking air in with the fuel and made the tuning of the carb difficult. Now are the plugs firing at the correct time? Choking had no effect, and there was some backfiring, which makes me think it was flooding. The carb was cleaned and a new kit installed. Spin it over with the choke fully closed; gas should drip out of the carb intake". Their engines are reliable, but notmuch in the fit-and-finish department.Same goes for the people at Chana Desil, come to think of it. is rated. "name": "Wayne Louton"