Ask any questions if I failed to give all pertinent info. Make sure the light So the electrical lighting company I work for just got new 2013 5500 fitted with Versalift buckets controlled by PTO. The fact that the light comes on indicates that current is flowing through the switch and the coil of the relay. in the dash all the time, whether or not the light is on. 2. Please select the number of verifiable months youve been driving professionally using your Class A CDL within the last 3 years. endobj If you've made sure the light fixture in the dash has power supplied to 3 0 obj 2 Years Each request is handled in a structured manner that ensures quick attention and resolution. possibility that the PTO light circuit is OK, and mechanical failure in Is it run thru the truck or a seperate switch? But then they came out with this repair and it worked good. Make sure the wire 1. endobj https://www.altec.com/service/technical-support/. Privacy | <> If there is a ground lead, put the + lead of the meter to the ground terminal and if you get voltage, it is the groound, if not, the motor needs work. JavaScript is disabled. There maybe two wires, one will just go to the chassis or body of the truck. come on. The department consists of a dedicated team of subject matter experts who can assist with troubleshootingand/or repairson any Altec unit ever produced. Terms of Service - At first they were telling us the same thing it was dodge's software issue. BTW, the relay may be attached to the electric motor like a starter motor but that is not really very common. has power supplied to it. It gets really annoying when you're in the zone working and then you have to wait. it light up. Utility Equipment Parts, LLC | All rights reserved | Privacy Policy. We use cookies on our site to provide you with the best user experience. Edit: there could be an inline fuse to the motor. 3 Years Make sure the PTO A forum community dedicated to Dodge Cummins Diesel truck owners and enthusiasts. Thank you in advance for any help you may give me. inside. The switch is lit which indicates it is on but I dont hear the pump turning on. bulb and socket receptacle have fallen out the back of the light fixture, I frequently see PTO lights that light up fine, but the The large wire attached to the terminal on the motor will lead back to the relay. Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport. Those Harley belt drives seem to hold up OK. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. you will have to trace it back to the source, it could be coming from anywhere or just run a new wire from a power source. 1 Year 4th Generation 2010 - 2018 6.7 Liter Cummins, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Not sure how Versalift wire in there system but that's what the engineers came up with at Eti. 4 Years the transmission, looks like a large hex bolt head with a single The six-sided PTO light switch, which screws into the PTO shift cover on There is a test port on the driver's side of the trans, near the PTO. What activates the pto? light come on and off when you move the PTO cable one-quarter inch up and Altec's new Supply Store is here! %PDF-1.5 If you get no voltage, its the relay. I Need CDL Training But the most recent model that I had hands on experience with was pre 1990 and things may have changed since then. Test the light fixture by isolating it from the truck, then This part of the circuit is not always supposed to be You have to shut off the engine and take key out for 15 mins. The motor may just need new brushes, that is their most common failure. All Rights Reserved. (white plastic center). Automakers do not like high amperage going through the cab. dislodge the wire from the single terminal it attaches to on the PTO light to sort of "reset" it. it, and you're satisfied the light fixture has not failed, but the bulb In order for you to receive the best possible offers, please make sure your answers above are accurate prior to submitting. PTO lights get whacked a lot. for July's Cummins of the Month Challenge! But not sure if it is a law but nothing like it shutting off when your in the air and can't get down with rain or snow blowing up you butt. 1-5 Months Have you check the truck to see if it is throwing any codes? It fixed the eti's. Advertising - 85-ish 1 ton hydraulic clutch line issues. has not come apart between the light bulb and the PTO. It probably will not be in any of the trucks fuse panels because the boom is not factory equipment. You can thank California for that because they have a law I think saying nothing can idle over 30 mins at a time. light switch on the transmission has not failed. If you can find the relay, chances are that you will hear it click whenever the switch is turned on. See if line rises when the PTO is engaged. Terms | We are working on a F550 boom truck (Im not sure on exact year, 01 maybe) with a 4r100 and a Chelsea "power shift" 242/244 PTO running an Eaton hydraulic pump. Come join the discussion about reviews, drivetrain swaps, turbos, modifications, classifieds, builds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. Questions Answered. The Altec control panel is located in back of drivers seat. Phone (205) 991-7733 For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Because the PTO light turns on by means of a "grounding" switch This helps to complete the loop from the operator to the engineer. Is it an electrically engaged pto on the trans or a belt driven on the engine with a magnetic clutch like an a/c compressor. Fax (205) 408-8601. From Altecs first Digger Derrick in the mid-70s and Aerials in the early 80s to todays cutting-edge designs, the Technical Support Department is there to help. The problem could also be the ground connection just mentioned, make sure it is clean. From one unit to a fleet, the Technical Support team is ready to answer any unit or chassis related questions that come in. the PTO is what's causing the light to fail to come on. goes down under the truck where road debris and a harsh environment often Without your consent employers will not be able to contact with job offers, would you like to opt-in now? <> You can't directly measure EPC. Yea they had the 30 min time out problem also it was my understanding that it was seperate problem and had to get flashed to disable that. Seeing all you have to do to activate this system flip a switch, Im guessing you have a belt driven pump with an electric clutch, (like an air condition has), yes I see the drive on top of the motor. tbe6MwfG.0q'>6W'HW`GhAKH[LQ9 ;ob~[ L1 up. When I took the cover off to see what it looked like I saw the fuses and connections. The light should 92 d350 auto CM flatbed, 93 w350 5 speed CM flatbed, 92 f350 Fummins 4wd 5 speed on 37s, 93 f350 Dually 4wd idi turbo, 94 f350 5 speed 4wd fummins, 96 f350 4wd auto, 97 f350 4wd auto 46s on 20s, 08 dodge 3500 4x4 auto dually CM flatbed. terminal. The other place it could be located would be near the battery terminal in the cable that goes to the motor. I dont know if I should check for a fuse or if this is something else. Stock 2014 RAM 5500 Laramie Crew 4X4 Aisin 4.88 Max Tow CM ER Bed. Hi guys, first time poster here. w/ t_uUX1N VbP;7=xR}fVM6}f:-o`6pDkq*3Ym[tJEh.F12 rG( #lU__2u\t2/me6b\MvJ'>NM>G( `N>`R02-q wPm6h6hJl/&X M]P. R;&su_z!78y!YBv<7tH4?., "YabxgG>x$GTj~~K+JWT\Js5-/7T@YC!bqu:=IxR@6QqaQ.t" .He+|'Or%$0}DxN For example, the PTO cable shift cover could be missing parts "hot," but the wire in this part of the circuit does need to be About Us - It is tied into the serpentine belt (which was just replaced) so I know that item is working as it should (I hope), Thanks for the info. CDL Grad, No Experience Additionally, if a customer needs to call back in theyre able to start from where they left off. It would be a cable that was added after the truck was made so it will look like an add on. This part of the PTO light circuit -- the part between the I wrench for a hydraulics company and we do all of eti work on small bucket trucks. Your Troubleshooting The switch probably controls a relay a big one, sometimes called a contactor that actually connects the pump motor to the battery. 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How about the EVIC have you checked it? I give my express consent authorizing TruckersReport and its. Cookie Policy | 3. There has gotta be some sort of fix or bypass for this. stream endobj Job Listing Rules, If it has an airline to it take it off and see if air comes out with switch on, if its an Alisson trans make sure you have power to the solenoid with switch on then go from there. Contact Technical Support at (877) 462-5832 Option #4 or email technical.support@altec.com. ground the light bulb when the PTO is engaged and make the bulb light Have someone flip the switch. Or, on air-shift PTOs, a failure of air supply could make The Technical Support team also works directly with engineering across Team Altec to integrate information received into new designs. electrical terminal in its center. When you flip the switch, if it in the cab, then in all likelyhood, the switch is only activating a relay. ) MQgHD*>BmuygW@JyQ 8JLfH=,v`Kr_VA?^^|]5S3) DWF-r UWoPJkjdk*.\UxFa+V\/RE/G(z^sT$JF"UIvnyU%Q |xoYBSLPu+Iyfkdx5J!|UDh]p3n}/ v ? 4nBELYu i*i1B/t;\ px /c6~LbZeqt yF(:eTgY W*#NBH_7q2A8ViaB%-\tsBtA tKT,}^[_H$y ,rt(_N$2e,~7XRoM08PT.TI'?933>2@eA&*mwJw@l='`9/ip>%Qs Hp|E The problem could also be the motor. This fixed the unit shutting down after 4 cycles either hope this helps. The switch actives the coil of a relay that should be close to the pump, the relay in turn provides power to the motor. Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by jcolebbs, Mar 3, 2019. grounding one wire and energizing the other wire. still does not light up when you engage the PTO, then make sure the wire A failing PTO light switch will sometimes make the Select one of the links below to begin your search. We would have to add a solid state time delay relay in for the pto to disable this and spilt up the start stop and park brake disably. 5. 1 0 obj This wire So I will test the main power wires coming into the board and see what I get there. light fixture in the dash and the PTO on the transmission -- serves to If the boom has a control panel, the fuse would most likely be found there. Altec NUECO specializes in used bucket trucks, used digger derrick trucks, used crane trucks, used telecom equipment and used parts for all these vehicles. By checking this box and clicking the "Send me job offers" button below, I represent that I: By checking this box and clicking the "Send me job offers" button below. The issue is that after going into PTO mode about 4 times, it just stops working after that. Usually, when we want to turn the system on, we engage the parking brake and flip a switch on the dash board that turns on the boom. On some PTOs, the PTO light You can measure line pressure, which is controlled by EPC. Disabling cookies may also prevent parts of website from working properly. Privacy Statement - between the light fixture and the PTO has not come apart. Tried the bucket test, no change. Contact Us - If you have a volt meter, connect one lead to the hot terminal on the motor, the other to ground. <> "Altec" is a registered trademark of Altec Industries, Inc. 210 Inverness Center Drive PTO light switches come in two 4. The following errors occurred with your submission, 1999 to 2016 Ford F250, F350, F450 and F550 Super Duty with, 1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks, 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks, F550 4r100, Chelsea 242/244 PTO Troubleshooting, Lightning, Harley-Davidson F-150, Roush F-150 & Saleen F-150, Conventional (Bumper Pull) Towing; Travel Trailers & Pop-ups, Toy Hauler Towing; Fifth Wheel & Bumper Pull, Flatbed, Car, Boat, Utility, Horse & Misc. switch fits into a recessed hole so all you can see is its electrical flavors: normally closed (black plastic center) and normally open x[m6}I^k>hZH]y! In CDL School Now <>/ExtGState<>/XObject<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/MediaBox[ 0 0 612 792] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S>> Altec is a leading equipment and service provider for the electric utility, telecommunications, contractor, lights and signs, and tree care markets. to be off and goes off when it's supposed to be on, install the other down on the PTO, it's supposed to have power supplied to the light fixture See if the bulb has burned out, or if Make sure the light Altec is committed to your safety and believe that industry-leading equipment deserves industry-leading training.Learn more. switch. Seeing as how any part of that system could be bad there is some significant diagnosis required with a voltmeter. leading one to think the light doesn't work. If you get full voltage, it is either the motor or the ground connection. apart. Not really the place for this but Id be looking for a relay. the PTO engage less than all the way. I've talked to the people at Versalift and they just say it's some weird issue with Dodge. The PTO light switch grounds the PTO light and thus makes We have been having problems with the boom system not getting power. The problem would be that the contacts inside the relay have burned up and are not passing the high current called for by the motor. Copyright 2022 Altec Industries. the socket the bulb fits into has wires or contacts that have come Need Help? VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Select one of the links below to begin your shopping experience: The key to the success of the Altec Service Group is its Technical Support Department. connected, not broken. I would have guessed that a boom lift would require a great deal more power than could be taken off a belt drive @It_s_Me. Now, the switch gets turned on, but nothing happens. % Each company we work with has specific experience requirements for their drivers. Thanks for your help. Birmingham, AL 35242-4834 The request and exchange of information is attached to the unit history to assist with future questions. Please contact us at 1-877-GO ALTEC, option 1. There aren't any codes and there aren't any settings in the EVIC for this issue. Consider the 2 0 obj Cookie Policy - That rules out lack of supply oil/plugged lines. Im guessing it actually turns on the hydraulic pump or the PTO but I do not know too much about vehicles. We have a 2008 F350 with an Altec AT200A Boom lift. Took the PTO off, trans seems to be Ok, PTO clutch pack is badly fried. This data may be used for personalization, analytics, and ads. Archive - If the PTO light comes on when it's supposed 6-11 Months 5+ Years, Please select ALL of your current, valid drivers licenses. down. color. 4 0 obj