It may not display this or other websites correctly. If you'd like to get the additional items you've selected to qualify for this offer. Could it be that "flowgauge" is their name for this device which is a regulator which reads in CFH based on known orifice size? I would rather just use my mig and tig flow gauges with a T then spend 200 bucks. Your welder should not be enough restriction at normal flow rate to cause problem as your only flowing about 30 cubic feet per hour. I set the meter to 20cfm (as recommended). Sundown. it would make some difference, but I don't believe noticable in a gauge setup for your purpose. This is my take on it any ways,I have no bases for this theory, only the appearance of the style of devises described. I will try and do some tests today but I have always found that I need more flow on the flow meter to get the desired output from the torch. However i really would love to the dual setup. .. the little ball looks really cool floating in the tube! http://www.harborfreight.com/regulator-gauge-94841.html. Miller Trailblazer 302, Spoolmatic 30A, Suitcase 12RC, And more machinery than you can shake a 7018 rod at, http://www.tigdepot.com/products/p34-196AR-60.htm, If this is your first visit, be sure to best that you don't try to modify it. I know you understand but I should have been clearer in the first post. Some manufactures use different size orifice for different models of flow-gages. Go get a $70-$100 victor, harris or smith name brand flowgauge regulator setup either online or at a different weld shop and you will be good to go. JavaScript is disabled. Yes you can have a blockage without a leak, in which case the peashooter will read exactly the same as the bottle flowmeter. I would say repetablitly is probably more important than absolute accuracy on a gauge anyway? The dial gauges if im not mistaken are diaphram style restrictor (acting like a regulater). What do you make one with? You must log in or register to reply here. One thing sets it apart. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I have both flow gauges and flow meters, but the gauges are in my welding cabinet. My welding suppy uses copper tube. Press J to jump to the feed. https://www.weldequip.com/gas-flow-tester.htm. The subreddit for welders, machinists and all other enthusiasts of joining two things together. A peashooter is best, it shows how much gas flow is exiting the shroud/nozzle: keep your shroud clean, spatter build up can disrupt this flow, or cause the gas to swirl and induct non inert gases into the weld pool: Sample of one but my peashooter flow meter and regulator dial match each other perfectly. welding shop had an off brand for 60 bucks and he said there was no need to spend anymore unless i wanted to jump to the 200+ range. On the MIG you have one size nozzle for your style of torch. When you trigger an arc the diaphram will sense the extra need for volume, of gas, and compensate. Blockages and leaks. Splitting hairs, but there are very real differences. A flow meter is much more accurate but for home use a regulator is fine in my opinion. Something went wrong. Regulated pressure is adjusted to get desired flow rate. Just trying to spend my funds wisely. Regulator dials are not that accurate for flow, I use flowmeters on my welders and they vary quite a bit from the dial, a peashooter is a cheap way of setting flow, to use it with a mig you'll need to temporarily flip the tension roller off to disable the wire feed. buy the thing its only 165 and youll probably save that, after driving around and shopping for different fittings etc etc. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Smith device with my MM175 says to specifically use a .032" orifice. Flowgauge reading when the solenoid is open with low restrictions down stream is ok. Barry, I'm curious how you have that rigged. After messing about with beer systems for a few years then I can confirm the length of the hose does make a difference due to the back pressure of what's already in the tube and the resistance from the tube itself. The welds improved, but there is gas leaking constantly from the adjustment knob. And yes you can set up the back purge with a quick brass tee and a small brass valve. Someone will have to explain how this peashooter on the torch meadures gas flow more accurately (better?) Add to cart to save with this special offer. With the gas on, The gauge reads 80psl, which seems correct. Cost is less than half of a flow meter, that's why almost all machines are shipped with a flow gauge. I bought a tee-fitting that goes into the tank outlet. Argon CO2 Mig Tig Flow Meter Regulator Welding Gas Welder Gauge with 10'Gas Hose, {"modules":["unloadOptimization","bandwidthDetection"],"unloadOptimization":{"browsers":{"Firefox":true,"Chrome":true}},"bandwidthDetection":{"url":"https://ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/thirtysevens.jpg","maxViews":4,"imgSize":37,"expiry":300000,"timeout":250}}, Recent sales price provided by the seller. check out the. I can't help with the back purge question, but if flow meters were bad, the high end machines would not come with them. I'm sure my meager welding skills will not be adversely affected by a lesser regulator. I like the readability of the ball. Thanks for the confirmation. I recently purchased a used Hobart MIG welder and tank. I think I'll take a look at the more traditional regulators and save myself some coin. View cart for details. I have a few expenses coming up and if a 10-20 dollar fitting will save 165 its worth it. Actually, it is a flow gaugeand not a regulator. It's true hard work never killed anyone, but why take a chance? Some flow gauges are set for a certain delivery and some are adjustable VIA the tee handle. If I weld at this point, the welder acts like there is no gas present (spitting, stuttering, etc). I was hoping to save some gas with it but alas no. Warning if you are running straight C02, not all flowgauges are rated for C02. than a conventional rotameter or tapered flow gauge? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. When you trigger an arc the diaphram will sense the extra need for volume, of gas, and compensate. BUT they sure aren't as cheap as what you are pricing. This page was generated at 09:57 PM. Thanks. It may not display this or other websites correctly. But if you are tring to run 2 sets of equitment off the same gas just get another tank so you have a back up tank . I am about to drop 175 bucks for the dual setup from tigdepot. I bought a flowmeter for my 180sd and use the flowgauge that came with it for backpurge. This page was generated at 08:57 PM. Plus you don't have to look around behind you to check. This seems to be a simple question but I don't know the answer. If you have a dial type you can T off that at the output and run one side to the inside of the tank, and the other to your gas solenoid. Changing torch cups on a TIG torch requires tweaking of the gas flow CFH. the gauges were std hobart for 70 or 80 bucks i believe. Now I am talking Mig here with an 8m push pull gun. The ball in the flowmeter sits at the bottom of the tube . The manufacturer set the flow meter/flow gauge for the equipment. If you Buy It Now, you'll only be purchasing this item. Are you running mixed gas or straight C02? I found the adjustment knob at the top of the meter closed. Probably there, but I am at a loss. Correction the boyancy of air would lesson the weight at sea level.. but again it's just one of many factors that need to be taken into account for measurement accuracy and measurement uncertainty statements. I'm assuming that there is something wrong with this flow meter, but I wanted to get an opinion if I was operating it incorrectly, or if I can fix it if it is broken. Different manufactures use different size orifice. Set it at the minimum that will produce good welds and leave it there. If this is wrong, the experts will correct me, but I think this is what's really there. Well ,were I work we run 12 mig welders 16 hrs a day and there is no wasted gas between flow meter or gauge. Anyone else with experience with this will most assuradly say otherwise.. does some one make a manifold that will mount 2 regulator/flowmeters ? Surely the dial on the regulator is accurate enough? I'm getting ready (if time will allow!!) If you have a dial type you can T off that at the output and run one side to the inside of the tank, and the other to your gas solenoid. Flow- Gage uses a LP gage calibrated to indicate flow rate through specified sized down stream orifice in regulator outlet fitting. Well, I run flow meters on both my Mig and Tig setups. All times are GMT-6. A replacement flow meter is $90 - $95 which is about 2/3 the cost of the entire unit. I use one of these cheapos on my Lincoln 255: If you are ever going to use it portable the gauges are generally tougher. The tank is equipped with one of these: I have not used one of these before and I'm not sure I'm using it correctly, or if it's malfunctioning (I cannot find a manual for it either). I have both; meter looks better, gauge works fine. with the ball style, you have a valve, after the intergral pressure regulator, that restricts the flow by causing a smaller hole for gas to flow through, and you are stuck with a constant amount of flow(15 cfm, for exc). When you go to weld you will have half of the intened flow neccasary(if equal conditions exist in both exits). It's CGA rated for shielding gas pressures (3000# rating). i got the bottle filled and held off on the rest of the purchase. check out the. If it's leaking around the adjustment knob it is bad either have it rebuilt or buy a new one. Great seller to deal with. Your LWS sounds like a moron. You are using an out of date browser. You can't have one without the other surely. That tells me it is really a regulator measuring pressure and converting to flow on the dial. JavaScript is disabled. I think flow meters are the way to go, except when faced with the position youre in. The dial gauges if im not mistaken are diaphram style restrictor (acting like a regulater). Hobart Handler 210 w/DP3035 - Great 240V small Mig, Miller Dynasty 200DX with cooler of my design, works for me, If this is your first visit, be sure to You are using an out of date browser. It will give a very approximate reading of flow but nothing like as accurate as a proper flow meter. I have a couple of questions and hope you guys can help me. went into the welding shop for a set of gauges and was suggested for home use all i needed was a flow meter. If you have a flow gauge, don't rush out to get a meter unless you just want one. Only if you're in a light breeze with no shielding would you want to use more gas. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. to make my cooler tank from stainless and thought it would be a good idea to start learning to backpurge. only shop in town and my bottle is 75/25 argon co2. Ok, set the flow meter on the Tig, it has an 8m WP20, to 10lpm on the flow meter and tested with 3 different peashooters, all came out as close as I could say to 10lpm. please post pics/PN's. I always thought the dial on the reg outlet is a pressure gauge, not a flow meter? it's tempting, since i'll have a drop available to bring argon to my MIG.