Once you get the drive fixed make a backup and then either run the defragment tool or reformat the drive and install a fresh OS onto it then recover your data from the backup (TimeMachine) being the better one. Will that not happen with APFS? And lastly find all of your cloning apps and throw them all away! Press Esc to cancel. That's good, as Big Sur is still not stable enough yet, even with V11.1 due to arrive soon. BTW i thought the RIGHT TO REPAIR movement already succeeded with new laws that will require manufactures to create innovative products that are mod like repairable (hard drives, cameras, memory upgrades etc) no? APFS Partitions corrupted Howard. There is no utility that can rebuild the directory of APFS disks yet. One thing Ive often wondered about SSD-based filesystems is that although seeking as a result of fragmentation no longer happens, the number of extents (or whatever the filesystem calls them) will continue to increase. Alsoft should not do it!!! I use it every week (along with Onyx), and that combination hols me keep my Macs "lean, mean, and clean". I am still waiting for DiskWarrior 6 to do it with APFS disks. I agree - was a paying client of DW for many years - but I don't see any benefit to buy it again - never really saw any value in the past - what does it really do? We would need a scientific report with many cases and scenarios to reach appropriate conclusions. I assume that you have run Disk Utility from an external drive, the restore partition (command-R boot) or an internet boot (command-option-R)? i'm in need of something much sooner to repair the data on the disk for our customer, this is the error message I'm getting when trying to perform FSCK or first aid on the disk, "macbook first aid volume could not be verified completely". I now can't use DiskWarrior to optimize the directories on my HFS+ disks any longer since I got a 2021 MBP with Monterey. Youll want to create a bootable external drive to run it from or setup a BootWell drive. and Alsoft says in their web page: Whats in the works. Still doesnt have proper support for APFS? You must log in or register to reply here. Do keep in mind SSD drives can encounter issues that cant be fixed as unlike a spinning disk which has tracks and sectors that can get messed up they use direct block access. If so, what error messages did you receive, if any? Beforehand the drive was mountable and I just didnt realize the severity of the damage. Firmlinking works, of course, but if you follow Apples use case and create a unique root location, i.e. They have yet to deliver. . Second, I have also been looking for a replacement for Disk Warrior and happened to check the Stellar website. Id also be fascinated to know the rate at which such errors occur in modern SSDs, which is something that Ive looked for, but simply cant find. Since there is only occasional write activity they should be safe from fragmentation. I think that it may be some years before well have third-party APFS repair tools which are superior to fsck_apfs. What does Disk First Aid do? I suppose this must make sense to him. Continuing to improve fsck_apfs and Disk Utility is unglamorous but vital for users, and there will always be scope for third-party alternatives, which Apple should encourage. There is a lot of misinformation and confusion on this topic. It's running the most up to date version of Mojave. As said, I do not know. Despite not being checked for the last year, not one error was reported, and all volumes, containers, disks and snapshots were reported as being correct. I had the drive plugged in my new MacBook and all of a sudden I got a message saying the drive kept disconnecting, which I thought was strange, since that didnt seem to be the case. BTW, this system has an updated RX-580 and WiFi BLE card. The best is to repair disks, but if that is not possible, the second can help to recover files to other disk (the damaged disk will continue being damaged with such second approach). My Mac Pro 5,1 (the old tower) has several SSDs on them including a PCiE M2 system disk, but it also houses some large spinner (4, 6, & 10TB.) That includes DiskWarrior (the best in the repair arsenal), TechTool Pro (second choice) and Drive Genius (third choice). Howard. Very informative. JavaScript is disabled. Theyve had three and a half years to get into gear. TIMEMACHINE s command line version diskutil has the verifychecksums verb. Thank you. The real catastrophe, however, awaits in example #2. First rolled out in a bold and daring move on 27 March 2017 to unsuspecting iOS users, weve been running it on our Macs since upgrading to High Sierra in September 2017. Will there come a time when this overhead is noticeable, or at least measurable? I use a few of these apps and I don't need be online to use them. Ill carry on in ignorance, happily using SSDs which work perfectly well. Although, you could still repair all your HFS+ formatted drives and that is something that wouldnt really be difficult even in an APFS formatted Mac. The HFS+ partition seems fine. However, Tech Tool Pro is the. Theyve had three and a half years to get into gear. Sorry they are literally nothing whatsoever to do with me, but WordPress. Should you trust Disk Utilitys First Aid orfsck? I think her data is corrupt, because i've moved the drive to multiple MacBooks and get the same error. No output is generated for matching checksums. I only wonder: i) if macOS will warn of issues when they arise in APFS (because sometimes they do arise, for whatever reason, including idiot user behavior! it's a 1 month old seagate firecuda 1 TB SSHD. At first the unmounting problem is worrying, but all you have to do is repeat the command. Disc Warrior 6.0 is *still* unavailable! -. Sounds like you're hitting a clone issue here! Finally, third-party disk utilities would be also great as you said. Yes, weve covered this with respect to TM backups previously. But says part of the truth in the small print: **Note:Optimization for APFS rotational drives is not yet possible with the current amount of APFS documentation provided by Apple, which currently provides insufficieant documentation for defragmenting a disk. Use TimeMachine to create a backup and then restore to a fresh drive to double check to see if the corruption is resolved. Are you sure that it isnt just to check whether the message has been received? The onus is on those who feel such maintenance utilities are necessary to provide objective evidence of any shortcomings in APFS which they feel such maintenance might address. I get no feedback at all from those who subscribed to emails, other than the total number. They still haven't updated this app in two years. Does DFA rebuild the corrupt directory? Howard. Checking and repairing a volume doesnt detect such data errors, neither can it fix them. I used diskwarrior for all of our older machines before APFS formatting came out. I think you should wait a until they come up with a newer version of their App, otherwise you will have to find other alternatives (which may be great, even perfect but not as perfect as DW). Apps including the Finder then should report that to the user thats not the job of macOS within an app. a firmlink to a file in your home folder (baz > Users/USER/baz). Howard. Diskwarrior 5.2 recognises APFS drives but cant repair them just yet. THEN AND ONLY THEN THE REPAIR UTILITIES WILL BE RELEASED TO REBUILD THE DIRECTORY OF APFS DISKS: https://www.apple.com/feedback/macos.htm First off, thank you for the information provided in the post above. But regardless if any of this is true or really spread miss information to smear america its just shows the lack of trust people have with Apple and all these sketchy data recovery apps that require you to be online to use them. A common problem encountered when trying to check volumes or their containers is that Disk Utility returns an immediate error, reporting that item couldnt be checked because the volume couldnt be unmounted. If the file system warns when there is a problem, that would be great and enough. @Tim I too would love if APFS would feature checksumming on file content not only metadata. How it resolves the conflict, I do not know. https://www.prosofteng.com/drive-genius- TechTool Pro. Is it a false positive? I still wonder whether I should have left them HFS+. Apple released a majority of the APFS format documentation in June of 2020. Thank you. Chances are that most checks will return no issue, but a few may identify issues that can then be fixed, preventing further damage. SR does not care about file systems at all, so APFS or not would make no difference. So why keep looking for one? Is this a product you would consider purchasing or are you still holding out for Alsoft to update Disk Warrior? One thing is how things are expected to work, and other how they actually work. @as2019. Of course, I still have a fully configured Mojave partition on a separate disk for backup and recovery. If the drive passes the Disk Utility testing, there is probably a software issue and you can reinstall the OS from the restore partition or an internet boot. BTW did you know that Catalina has a backdoor as wide as Opra's fat tush just begging for a justification to get your device bricked remotely, some times for as little reasons as some random p0rn advert appearing on a webpage while your browsing netflix. In other words, will it be faster to access a contiguous file as opposed to a file with 1,000 (or X) extents when no seeking is done? The open source Mailtrackerblocker Mail add-on is suggesting you are! Apple should not do that!!! I dont see any notes saying it wont, heres how: How to run repair on a drive. I wish First Aid would recommend I backup the drive before wrecking it. Pretty slack. Not surprised at the criminal monopoly, conspiracy theorist have also gone as far as alleging Jobs was assassinated by the government who has been in the backseat of Apple since the hiring of ex Cyber Security from NSA which kind of does match the whistle blowers info out there about the domestic spying abuses against citizens including the current president for personal gain or investment interests carried out by agencies with zero over sight from DOJ or the office of the inspectors General. Howard. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I think the problem with the cumulative errors which occurred in HFS+ is that most werent apparent to the file system until there were quite a lot, by which time there were more major problems. Given the three existing types of link/alias, I have quite enough to choose from (and mess up!). This cant of course guarantee that errors never occur in an APFS file system, but should eliminate this process of steady degradation and eliminate the need for such routine maintenance. Journalling isnt a solution, as it doesnt prevent those errors from occurring, merely mitigates them when they do occur. I have absolutely no control over what it does with them. Not only because competition is good, but also because it is convenient to have different tools in the disk troubleshooting arsenal. a firmlink of /mnt and /private/mnt. Those arent file system errors, and the subject of a whole series of articles here, on data integrity. DW 5.3 will recognize M1 Macs & Big Sur but it can't do anything with them since M1 & Big Sur are APFS and DW 5.3 will STILL NOT support APFS! Its not like they have any other product distractions, fiddling about with file systems is their raisin dtre. Thanks. I do not know. Just like your music or video feeds. It sounds like you need one of each ;-}, This is not a political blog and we really don't like slamming people no matter who they are. I have also mostly given up on DiskWarrior in favour of Tech Tool Pro although DW is still viable on Time Machine drives which are still HFS+ format. What is needed is documentation at least as detailed as the one for the HFS+ filesystem. Thank you. In the current version of Disk Utility, that isnt all necessary, as checking a container will normally result in each of its volumes also being checked, together with any snapshots. Its impressive that your scan of several terabytes showed no errors, but if any bits within the files had gotten flipped, would you have any way to notice, until you opened the file and it looked funny? Thus, they are completely different applications. The RX-580 also support hardware enabled media codecs. The few things that WordPress does keep track of, like page views, are all fed back to bloggers. Additionally, DiskWarrior finds issues in HFS+ that macOS including Disk Utilitys First Aid do not see. Howard. Beginning in OS X 10.11, Time Machine records checksums of files copied into backups. now I cant use it. In addition to comparing metadata (filename, filesize, timestamps) between source and destination to get certainty that this is the same file, it also does a checksum (hence needs a full read of all content on source and destination). While MFS was designed for use with 400 KB floppy disks and couldnt cope with storage larger than 20 MB, HFS+ was intended for hard disks larger than any currently available. Im great with backups of my SSD, but this was a fairly new drive where Id recently put lots of personal files that I hadnt yet backed up anywhere else The drive was partitioned into 2 volumes, APFS and HFS+ for time machine. https://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/mojav That is FALSE. Techtool Pro can also repair Apple's new APFS file system, standard Mac OS Extended volumes, as well as MS-DOS (FAT32) and ExFAT formatted volumes. That is why I would like to test DiskWarrior 6 when released to reach appropriate conclusions. Apple addressed this by introducing journalling, in which the file system makes each change first in a record in its journal, then to the catalogue in the file system metadata. When I checked It, I noticed several folders were missing. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ https://www.ecologique-solidaire.gouv.fr No Right to Repair here in the US is still not locked in and even the EU its not. https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19455-01/805. yesterdayJul 28, 2022 by Thanks. All you're seeing here is a company that under big Tim has become more aggressive in hiding its code and limiting equipment service to its self. Im less lucky. https://www.micromat.com/component/kunen Alsoft (DriveWarrior) is completely misleading and wrong: Using DiskWarrior 5.2 while started (booted) from High Sierra or Mojave. It's a slower process than DiskWarrior but at least it's capable of doing the job. It fails to communicate with required system software. See if the free Demo allows you to fix the drive. Checksums are not retroactively computed for files that were copied by earlier releases of OS X. What's in the works. Thus, probably the best approach is to keep on performing routine checks on APFSs health, but instead of at least once a month (as now Alsoft recommends about DiskWarrior for HFS+ disks), maybe once every six months or a year, or whatever, but sometimes; not never ever. First aid did report errors with it but didnt fail the process and in any case I had no problems with that partition. It does not make sense that it has not been released yet, except if key engineers have left Alsoft for some reason (coronavirus? You are of course not referring there to scientific facts but what are known in the trade as unconfirmed anecdotal reports of file system errors. Howard. They CANNOT release a new version of DiskWarrior to rebuild directory of APFS until Apple releases the full documentation. As I have explained, I thought quite explicitly, APFS is specifically designed to prevent those from occurring. (On my system, Finder actually managed to refresh a window in such a unique synthetically firmlinked path, but a developer whom I notified wasnt as lucky; tests with another file manager werent successful either.) Some developers are clear about it in their web pages, like Prosoft Engineering: Drive Genius 5. And then, a tool to fix them will be invaluable! Not a problem for meMailTrackerBlocker just blocks the tracking now. Dane Russell Fjelstad. macOS 10.13.2 and Disk Utility = Atrocious Bug-Ridden Disaster What do you recommend to repair data now since diskwarrior doesnt work anymore for APFS drives? Thank you in advance for your help and have a great day! As those errors dont appear to occur in APFS, because it has been designed to prevent them, what purpose could routine use of DiskWarrior for APFS serve which cant already be catered for by Disk Utility and the tool which it uses, fsck_apfs? File systems do incur errors, and excellent tools for the checking and repair of APFS are among the most important utilities in macOS. Takes only a second and then eureka, the check proceeds. Please check CCCs excellent documentation if you have further interest in this. This is efficient, but inherently prone to error. Wow! Luckily, I saw it. The work-around for Big Sur seems to be to do a check on the Media. Now, it would be really great if Rusty Little (Alsoft/DiskWarrior Project Manager) could tell us something about how is going on the development of DiskWarrior 6 to rebuild the directory of APFS disks. As a result, in common with most file systems designed for hard disks, it defaults to overwriting data when changing it, notably in the file system metadata. passed away?). The files current checksum does not match the expected recorded checksum. The reason is that Apple has not yet released documentation about how to write to such APFS disks, as they did about how to read them by September 2018 (after releasing macOS 10.14 Mojave; a year after releasing APFS for Mac and even before for iOS by March 2017!!!). My brand new MacBook Pro M1 corrupted an APFS drive thats still fairly new and never gave me problems on my intel Mac. If you dont like what it does, please unsubscribe to them and use the ample RSS feeds instead. Dane Russell Fjelstad, Ali Sadykov Howard. It may not display this or other websites correctly. underpaid? Example #1 creates a standalone root folder sure enough, but different from what Apple says, you cant mount over it, simply because unlike /tmp the permissions arent right for unprivileged users though granted, Apple does say its for enterprise NFS mounts and the like. This gets into if you are buying a standalone app or a cloud based app. For instance, the following articles (amongst many others): I presume these should be ok with APFS. I do like the shared Volume feature, which makes disk management flexible. Currently, that consists of a total of 11 TB across 7 SSDs, of which around 5 TB contains files. After First Aid, which ran for a few minutes before quitting and telling me it failed, and recommending I backup the drive, it no longer mounts, and its name even has disappeared. firmlink a root directory of /System/Volumes/Data, FSEvents will report non-existing paths, i.e. This blog is tracking-free, ad-free, and totally free, and thats the way that I want it to be. On SSDs, copy-on-write actually helps the essential process of wear levelling, to ensure that the number of erases is spread evenly across storage blocks. The next major release of DiskWarrior will include the ability to rebuild APFS disks. All you've seen is the dialog and proposed laws, nothing has been made the law of the land. I understand your anger and frustration. This company is ridiculous. HOWEVER, if this occurred IMMEDIATELY following an attempt to install Catalina chances are the install and accompanying restructuring of the drive went sideways and you will probably never get it to run correctly again without reinitializing the drive (APFS) and doing a clean reinstall of the OS. DiskWarrior resolves existing disk damage by rebuilding your HFS+ disk directory, doesn't work on APFS volumes yet. Thank you. : ), Feb 18, 2020 by https://eclecticlight.co/2019/09/30/shou As Howard Oakley (hoakley) states, "Theres now at least one product available which attempts to recover the contents of damaged or deleted APFS volumes. Much as what happens with mutations, which may accumulate, leading to cancer. Howard. Indeed, experience teaches that some of them may identify/repair issues not detected/repaired by other utility, including Disk Utilitys First Aid. Later this month Apple File System (APFS) will be four years old. The vexing part has been the noted issue of the insistence that First Aid cant proceed because the disk is mounted (of course it is). This problem has plagued Disk Utility since the release of High Sierra, but has now become a minor irritant rather than the major obstacle it once was. But even the former is not bullet-proof. Search the Internet for horror stories about it. APFS is proving to be a fine filesystem, but it (rather infamously) only checksums metadata, not file contents. I expect it will be less needed than with HFS+, since APFS is more robust, but still will be a life-saver when issues arise with APFS. Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) and also the command line version of TimeMachine (tmutil) have checksumming / comparison features. 2.0GHz, 2.3GHz, or 2.6GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor (Turbo Boost up to 3.8GHz) with 6MB shared L3 cache. Howard. Because its primarily designed for use with SSDs, for which seek times and fragmentation arent a concern, what APFS does is to write changed metadata to a new location on disk, and only when that has been completed successfully is the original metadata released for re-use, a process known as copy-on-write. Peter Gamble, Thank you for the detailed response. Thank you. This FSEvents behavior also occurs without firmlinks, namely when you modify, create or delete a file directly in the root of /System/Volumes/Data, possibly because FSEvents reports / instead, which is really not your current path. Thats why we are fighting hard for the Right to Repair. I must admit that I havent even played with synthetic firmlinks. By default its off as its costy. Thanks. Apple has recently released the APFS format documentation. Our developers are now using that documentation to update DiskWarrior to be able to safely rebuild APFS disks. Hi Dane, thanks and sorry for my late reply, but I did not notice your message before. Repair APFS partition with damaged / zeroed-out header But sometimes beginners are luckier. As an example MS Office can be bought as either as installed app on your drive (no network access at all) or as a service via cloud. Thank you. I am now using Open Core EFI boot and it is running Big Sur nicely. You can check out the interesting article and comments at. Howard, are you using a mail tracker in emails? ? Thank you. It is good to have both and use them depending on the issue to address (repair disks or recover files). Typically only takes a bit of time, but may not be necessary now. But DFA fixes disk corruption in a way different than Disk Warrior does (Rebuilds the directory)? Ugh. Recover/rebuild APFS Container Scheme? There are more than 100 snapshots, made by both Time Machine and Carbon Copy Cloner, and those disks have been running Catalina then Big Sur over the past year. I havent needed to fix a APFS formatted HDD or SSHD drive so Im not sure if it will work. Personally, Id like Steve Gibson of GRC to release SpinRite 7 for Mac! In any case, the fact is that some people are finding serious problems with APFS that Disk Utilitys First Aid cannot repair. Howard. New EU rules that could mark the end of 'throwaway culture' and e-waste will force tech companies including Apple and Samsung to make products that last longer and are easy to repair. Thanks. While the post linked below does not mention rebuilding the directory of an APFS drive, it does say you can use Apples Disk Utility to repair them. I have been using First Aid to check my backups. Thanks for the link and information, but to Alsoft I would say so what? But time will tell once DiskWarrior 6 is released, as Alsoft has promised in their web site and Twitters account. Once you feel confident the spare drive is good, reformat the Seagate and re-install macOS as needed. Terms The movement is alive and well but it needs bodies behind it screaming at the local and regional politicians to alter the laws of the land. I almost missed your reply, since it was below my message above. I would be happy then. Of course companies will go the direction most profitable, but im just saying that T$m Cr00k will and has openly ventured into illegal areas that have not yet been addressed by our US or international courts . @Fat Lip - If he still has the original disk then no. Then, time will tell if it is useful. I wasn't clear enough, sorry. I think the examples you are quoting are actually in the man page for synthetic.conf, which hasnt been updated for well over a year. Prior to its introduction, it was common for most crashes to result in at least minor damage to file system metadata, and many of us routinely rebuilt its directories after each crash, or as periodic maintenance, to prevent those accumulating until serious errors resulted. Similar? Pretty slack. Meanwhile, I have moved on to using TechTool Pro to repair APFS drives with Directory issues. We have been waiting for it since 2017 (almost four years ago!) TechTool Pro web page is confusing about it and actually misleading if you do not read with extreme care, but Micromat explains it clearly in their knowledge base documentation and forum. I assume you have to manually compare and decide which version to keep (source or destination). I've tested the drive itself in DRIVEDX and it has 100% health. Thank you. You are using an out of date browser. I tried reinstalling DiskWarrior, but the problem remains. There is a lot of confusion in this topic. Begin typing your search above and press return to search. https://www.micromat.com/mac-hard-drive- unfortunately I can't wait for diskwarrior. The next major release of DiskWarrior (DiskWarrior 6.0) will include the ability to rebuild APFS disks. As the old saying goes, thats what backups are for, isnt it? Stellar Data Recovery Professional for Mac". First, I have a mate and she keeps be well grounded and I have two dogs. However, APFS does appear to have achieved its objective of eliminating the routine accumulation of file system errors to which HFS+ was prone. Until there are objective assessments of third-party repair tools, I would strongly recommend that you dont use them for real, or you could end up making your problems worse. ; and ii) if the answer is that DiskWarrior 6 will be released for sure with 100% confidence (which would mean that Alsoft has all the required documentation to do it), should we expect it this year, next year, or in which timeframe (even if widely or wildly approximate; for instance, in five years, or whatever)? Very helpful. It would detect if source and destination dont match. Disk Warrior is much better and efficient repairing damaged disks than Disk Utility, because only the former rebuilds from scratch the directory of HFS+ disks. In addition to native Mac drive formats, Mac OS Extended and APFS, Techtool Pro supports testing and repair ofMS-DOS (FAT32) and ExFAT formatted volumes. He is a pro at it, for example, while with Jobs he was the one flying to China visiting child slave factories and arranging shipments of 3,4 quarter batches of devices to contain toxic cheap parts assembled by child slave factories., more cuts more profits and its true, Apple has been fined over and over and they dont mind paying the fines as Mr$ Crook has learned that paying the fines is also more profitable then recalls, paying class action law suites off etc cause Apple makes $350 million an hour from all this itself. They're at the mercy of Apple who was slow to release the documentation they needed to write APFS compatible DiskWarrior.
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